arthwollipot wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 1:36 am
President Bush wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 1:18 amOh, okay, I will assume you are not a zombie. Now a question:
Was the thoughtful reply to me that you just posted
not a physical effect?
Again, levels. I'm not physically affecting my neurotransmitters when I reply to you, I'm physically affecting my computer.
you're physically moving electrons when you think.
you can even affect where blood flows with thought.
chess is a high calorie sport.
what's wrong with free will?
reminds me of god vs no god.
what possible difference does it make?
it's a very odd division between people; one that serves no purpose other than contention.
we all believe the same thing; we just use different words.
we're operating the same physical meat machinery in the same perceptual universe.
we get to explore it to the extent that our belief system allows.
thank god science is experiencing a new renaissance of thinking. quantum mechanics is strange enough that it may have spurred more acceptance of out of the box approaches.
what we've learned about forests, quite recently, is outrageously exciting...and it was out of reach because we had no reason to look. To a human supremacist, it would sound like absolute poppy-cock. The suggestion of a mycelium network that acts like a neural network between multiple species, whom can use it to direct flow of nutrients and or pest deterrents to other trees, would have gotten a botanist fired 40 years ago. It sounds like mythology.
and of course, same is true in all fields of study. science carries its baggage along.
that baggage, imho, oddly enough, is 'religious thinking'.
example:
i have old science books that describe the negro brain. it was known to be smaller and less developed than the caucasion brain. this error stems from the white-centric background of science in general.
scientists also knew crazy shit about women and babies, that, thank god, has been debunked.
it's our arrogance, not our apathy, that has us stuck.
