I read an article about him today saying nuclear weapons were invented by demons. I assumed at first that he was using a rhetorical device, calling them "demonic" and saying Satan is behind them and all that, but as I read the quote, I realized he was talking literally.
He said you couldn't point to a date when nuclear science got started. That proved that it just suddenly appeared by the influence of demons.
I wish that this recent demon talk would be enough to convince people that most of what he says is equally absurd, but I think there will be a different message taken by his fans.
The Religion Thread
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arthwollipot
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Belief in literal demons is part of the Evangelical Christian canon. It's hard to believe people believe in demons here in the 21st century, but I assure you they do.
If you're not on edge, you're taking up too much space.
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During my time at JREF/ISF my attitude toward religion hardened a lot. I'm still not completely anti-religious. I think it does some good in addition to doing some harm. When it comes to belief in angels or demon or, for that matter, gods and goddesses, djinni or ghosts, I don't think that it makes you crazy to believe that they exist.arthwollipot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 12:13 pm Belief in literal demons is part of the Evangelical Christian canon. It's hard to believe people believe in demons here in the 21st century, but I assure you they do.
If I think back to my days, decades ago, when I believed in God, and as a result I believed in angels and demons as well, we mostly believed that they were these spiritual entities that influenced our lives, but through psychological pressure. Like the scene in "Animal House" where the angel is on one shoulder telling the kid to be virtuous, while the demon was encouraging him to give in to his sinful urges. That sort of thing, which many people still believe, is ok by me. On an historical level, showing Satan telling Hitler what to do next, or cackling with glee at Wermacht victories, is ok.
But Tucker is at a whole different level with this latest stuff. When you start saying out loud that demons are scratching you, or giving secrets to scientists, that's just nuts.
And I've taken a much dimmer view of religion in general because it encourages that brand of insanity, or at the very least refuses to confront it. Preachers aren't going to stand up and say, "Tucker, you need to see a psychiatrist. That's not what demons do"
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Started thinking "fuck you Jesus" when I was around eleven or twelve.
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Raised a Cathoholic here which made it easy to break away intellectually. But there are emotional pieces of the indoctrination that are tougher to flush down the toilet where they belong.
As for religion in general: It's all shit and does no good at all. Ever. It sets people up for magical, delusional thinking every fucking time and that is never good or productive.
Now, you don't have to be religious to indulge in magical and delusional thinking. But show me a person who has a certain devotion to faith and I'll show you one poor fucked up plebe with serious thinking issues.
Let's not forget the definition of 'faith'. Buying into shit without the least little bit of evidence.
"But sparks, if only your faith was strong enough!"
No. That's bullshit. I've been working slowly and methodically all my adult life to eradicate faith from my life. I much prefer Reason. Because it bloody well works. Bitches.
As for religion in general: It's all shit and does no good at all. Ever. It sets people up for magical, delusional thinking every fucking time and that is never good or productive.
Now, you don't have to be religious to indulge in magical and delusional thinking. But show me a person who has a certain devotion to faith and I'll show you one poor fucked up plebe with serious thinking issues.
Let's not forget the definition of 'faith'. Buying into shit without the least little bit of evidence.
"But sparks, if only your faith was strong enough!"
No. That's bullshit. I've been working slowly and methodically all my adult life to eradicate faith from my life. I much prefer Reason. Because it bloody well works. Bitches.
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Ahh..
The old "Faith in Reason" school...
The old "Faith in Reason" school...
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Priest replaced after Sabrina Carpenter shoots music video in his church
I thought that was a little heavy-handed for letting a video be filmed in the church, but it turns out there's other issues.
I have no idea who Sabrina Carpenter is, but here she is:
I thought that was a little heavy-handed for letting a video be filmed in the church, but it turns out there's other issues.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz0m235y89goOn Monday, Bishop Brennan said a larger review under the investigation detected other instances of administrative impropriety, including Mr Gigantiello using a credit card for personal expenses.
Bishop Brennan also said that, from 2019 to 2021, Mr Gigantiello transferred nearly $2m (£1.5M) in church funds to bank accounts affiliated with a former staff member of New York City Mayor Eric Adams.
I have no idea who Sabrina Carpenter is, but here she is:
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Another entitled no talent fake blonde perhaps?
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She's T.S.'s replacement unit.
On Spotify (i.i.r.c.) she had 4 tunes in the top ten, globally, simultaneously. I accidentally learned that she's doing even more risque' stuff than the previous unit. Acting like a high-end hooker is all the rage. There's machinery to handle the singing demands.
As per religion, ya'll missing something:
For some, it's a device for metaphoric expression. We can speak of god casually, as in "God damnit!" Or "God only knows" as in the Beach Boys song.
Also, the science of judging religion has a bias...and missing data. This because it avoids relativity. We don't know what the religious nut would be doing without his delusion and without the distraction of church. What if he's on such shaky ground that religion is all that keeps him from mass murder.
Saying this, of course, will further cement my identity as anti-science. A closer look will show that i'm doing critical thinking. There's more. New discoveries hint at a universe more 'magical' than we'd have preferred, as hard materialists. It's made out of woo, for instance. Came from woo. All is woo. Evidence to the contrary?
Logic? A badge we stick on things to feel less lost. Leaves one stranded when entering the unknown. Rational? Defend logic by rejecting the existence of the unknown. It's a tool for navigation, but only within self-imposed limits.
There's nothing unscientific about belief in Gods, but there is something unscientific in claiming that one knows there is no God. They don't.
My horse in the race is not about god, which is what TA and sparky assume. It's about science. That's what i'm defending. Science isn't anti-religion. It has nothing to say about God. Believing that science is anti-religion is, oddly enough, religious thinking. And that is critical thinking.
On Spotify (i.i.r.c.) she had 4 tunes in the top ten, globally, simultaneously. I accidentally learned that she's doing even more risque' stuff than the previous unit. Acting like a high-end hooker is all the rage. There's machinery to handle the singing demands.
As per religion, ya'll missing something:
For some, it's a device for metaphoric expression. We can speak of god casually, as in "God damnit!" Or "God only knows" as in the Beach Boys song.
Also, the science of judging religion has a bias...and missing data. This because it avoids relativity. We don't know what the religious nut would be doing without his delusion and without the distraction of church. What if he's on such shaky ground that religion is all that keeps him from mass murder.
Saying this, of course, will further cement my identity as anti-science. A closer look will show that i'm doing critical thinking. There's more. New discoveries hint at a universe more 'magical' than we'd have preferred, as hard materialists. It's made out of woo, for instance. Came from woo. All is woo. Evidence to the contrary?
Logic? A badge we stick on things to feel less lost. Leaves one stranded when entering the unknown. Rational? Defend logic by rejecting the existence of the unknown. It's a tool for navigation, but only within self-imposed limits.
There's nothing unscientific about belief in Gods, but there is something unscientific in claiming that one knows there is no God. They don't.
My horse in the race is not about god, which is what TA and sparky assume. It's about science. That's what i'm defending. Science isn't anti-religion. It has nothing to say about God. Believing that science is anti-religion is, oddly enough, religious thinking. And that is critical thinking.