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what it means to be human

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 6:53 pm
by stanky
i've been carving a piece of juniper root-wood. It suggested conjoined twins (fused at the tops of their heads) and i went with it. quite stunning, i might add. but it got me wondering:
what about conjoined triplets? yes we can; extremely rare.
and i wondered if their were any conjoined twins that also had parasitic twins.

a googliing got me this far:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9546242/

thank god women won't be aborting these marvels in the future.

Re: what it means to be human

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 10:28 pm
by sparks
Not all the combinations possible in the human genome produce something desirable.

Re: what it means to be human

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 3:33 am
by stanky
i'll say!

i'm curious if there's an arbitrary line we've drawn as to what's acceptable as human.
what if it has no noticeable human characteristics?
like an adult fetus. would it get its own bathroom?
maybe a manatee could be surgically altered to appear more human.
will we engineer our form by adding other species genes?
could you still compete in sports if you had a dolphin tale instead of legs?
could you get a date if you abandoned bilateral symmetry?

Re: what it means to be human

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:44 am
by sparks
Anything that doesn't look and think like us is rejected. Not good, but there it is.

Re: what it means to be human

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:58 pm
by President Bush
Conjoined twin cookie cutter is just $5:

https://x.com/MutterMuseum/status/803253412817240064

Re: what it means to be human

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:05 pm
by President Bush
seems on topic...

"The Android and the Human" ... Philip K Dick

https://sporastudios.org/mark/courses/a ... ndroid.pdf

Re: what it means to be human

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 10:20 pm
by stanky
was reading some of that and thought, 'he gave that talk 50 plus years ago and it sounds fresh.'

Re: what it means to be human

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:35 pm
by Meadmaker
stanky wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 3:33 am i'm curious if there's an arbitrary line we've drawn as to what's acceptable as human.
No

We draw different lines. For me, consciousness and thought are definitive. For others, any organism with functioning human DNA is human.

That's why the abortion debate is impossible to resolve. If you use the latter definition, it's human from conception until the point that breathing crashes with no hope of resumption.

Re: what it means to be human

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:34 pm
by President Bush
Meadmaker wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:35 pm
stanky wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 3:33 am i'm curious if there's an arbitrary line we've drawn as to what's acceptable as human.
No

We draw different lines. For me, consciousness and thought are definitive. For others, any organism with functioning human DNA is human.
Doesn't parse... "arbitrary" is what's often based on personal whim.

Re: what it means to be human

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:04 pm
by sparks
It doesn't consist of enough cells to have a functioning brain, yet believers believe it has a soul.

Can't help fools.

Where would I draw the line myself? Don't have to. I don't want children. Never have. It's been fairly easy to avoid acquiring them. Either keep your prick in your own pants or be sure to wear on of those little rubber devices on your old John Thomas!

No need to abort anything whether it's a microscopic glob of goo or a 9 month old squalling screaming attention sucking black hole.

And the last thing this planet needs is more people competing for resources.