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Re: trump off the CO ballot

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 6:20 am
by stanky
The statues are safe in a museum. Racism has morphed into classism, which is at the heart of it. As interbreeding dilutes the obvious features, dark skin will persist where people work in fields all day, and is looked down upon by those that can. African racism is strong enough for hatred between tribes to break down into genocide, yet, by white racist reckoning, they're the same. N-worders!

In the case of Rwanda's Tutsi's and Hutu's, government propaganda, broadcast on radio, was the catalyst for combustion. We need to be taught who to hate. Recent developments make it all too clear how easy it is to foster divisiveness. It's a tool.

Re: trump off the CO ballot

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 2:20 pm
by President Bush
Meadmaker wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 1:02 am As I said after the debate, it's so hard for me to project myself into the head of an undecided voter. To me, if a candidate is a narcissist and megalomania who cannot tell truth from fantasy, I don't ask, "Well, yeah, but what does he think about immigration?" That's not the way the undecideds think. If truth were a core value for those people, they would have jumped the Trump ship a long time ago and would not reboard no matter what. Obviously, there's something more important to them.
I wonder if it could be where these undecided voters think the pet-eating immigrants came from?

Do you have any idea where they think the Haitians came from?

Re: trump off the CO ballot

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:00 pm
by Meadmaker
President Bush wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 2:20 pm
Meadmaker wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 1:02 am As I said after the debate, it's so hard for me to project myself into the head of an undecided voter. To me, if a candidate is a narcissist and megalomania who cannot tell truth from fantasy, I don't ask, "Well, yeah, but what does he think about immigration?" That's not the way the undecideds think. If truth were a core value for those people, they would have jumped the Trump ship a long time ago and would not reboard no matter what. Obviously, there's something more important to them.
I wonder if it could be where these undecided voters think the pet-eating immigrants came from?

Do you have any idea where they think the Haitians came from?
I'm guessing they think the Haitian immigrants came from Haiti.

Some of them might not know where Haiti is, I suppose. Americans are rather famous for their lack of world geography knowledge. One of the "See they really are eating cats!!!!!" videos was about accusations against African immigrants currently living in Dayton. (That was the video referenced earlier, where the meat on the grill sure looked like it had chicken skin to me, but CBS was investigating.) It wouldn't surprise me if some of the people complaining about Haitian immigrants think that Haiti is somewhere in Africa, but I think most of them know that it's in the Caribbean.

Re: trump off the CO ballot

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:34 pm
by stanky
Hades comes to mind.

Back to Trump:

Can you believe this recent Gallup pole?
Trump's approval rating has climbed 5 points since the debate!
And Harris's has dropped.
(Neither are very popular, with a majority of voters disapproving of both.)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-favora ... 23111.html

Re: trump off the CO ballot

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 12:14 am
by arthwollipot
Meadmaker wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:00 pmSome of them might not know where Haiti is, I suppose. Americans are rather famous for their lack of world geography knowledge. One of the "See they really are eating cats!!!!!" videos was about accusations against African immigrants currently living in Dayton. (That was the video referenced earlier, where the meat on the grill sure looked like it had chicken skin to me, but CBS was investigating.) It wouldn't surprise me if some of the people complaining about Haitian immigrants think that Haiti is somewhere in Africa, but I think most of them know that it's in the Caribbean.
Haitians have been victims of racist fearmongering for years. Decades. The only new thing about it is that now an ex-President has said it.

Re: trump off the CO ballot

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:08 am
by Meadmaker
arthwollipot wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 12:14 am ]Haitians have been victims of racist fearmongering for years. Decades. The only new thing about it is that now an ex-President has said it.
Yep.

It's mostly because of voodoo. (I think the preferred spelloing is Voudoun these days.) And funny accents that are harder to understand than Jamaicans.

Re: trump off the CO ballot

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:32 am
by Admin
stanky wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:34 pm Can you believe this recent Gallup pole?
Trump's approval rating has climbed 5 points since the debate!
Nope, it's an outlier and at variance with multiple other polls.

Trump is toast and Harris wins in a landslide.