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sparks wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 9:42 pm Winning the election means (or at least it's supposed to mean) a majority of the voters think he's capable. Not two different issues.

Meadmaker wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:25 pm Something occurred to me about the disconnect between media and people. Here's a headline:

"Biden’s TV interview fails to quell re-election concerns among lawmakers, donors and strategists"

It echoes a constant theme in all the stories I've read, at least from anything not strong right wing, i.e. Fox News or anything to the right of it.


In the media stories, the concern is always about whether Biden is too old to win the election. Do voters trust him? Do voters think he's too old?


Ok. Yes. That's an interesting question, but it's not one that is at the top of my lists of concerns. The important question is whether he is capable of doing a job as President. If the call comes at 3:00 am, will he have to tell them that he doesn't really work after 8:00? And they'll have to call back.

This has been something of a problem all my life. The media covers elections like they are sporting events. That's understandable. They have a lot in common with sporting events. However, in addition to winning the election, there's also the problem of actually doing the job.

arthwollipot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 10:48 pm

sparks wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 9:42 pm Winning the election means (or at least it's supposed to mean) a majority of the voters think he's capable. Not two different issues.

Pfft. No it doesn't. The Electoral College ensures that.

President Bush wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:58 am

Meadmaker wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:25 pm Something occurred to me about the disconnect between media and people. Here's a headline:

"Biden’s TV interview fails to quell re-election concerns among lawmakers, donors and strategists"

It echoes a constant theme in all the stories I've read, at least from anything not strong right wing, i.e. Fox News or anything to the right of it.


In the media stories, the concern is always about whether Biden is too old to win the election. Do voters trust him? Do voters think he's too old?


Ok. Yes. That's an interesting question, but it's not one that is at the top of my lists of concerns. The important question is whether he is capable of doing a job as President. If the call comes at 3:00 am, will he have to tell them that he doesn't really work after 8:00? And they'll have to call back.

This has been something of a problem all my life. The media covers elections like they are sporting events. That's understandable. They have a lot in common with sporting events. However, in addition to winning the election, there's also the problem of actually doing the job.

Media stories mislead you only if you pay attention to them.

sparks wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 6:12 pm The Rethuglicunts appear unworried. If they were, they'd be screaming about Article 25. Not seeing any of that at this time.

sparks wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 9:42 pm Winning the election means (or at least it's supposed to mean) a majority of the voters think he's capable. Not two different issues.

The same issue.

I frankly can't see how anyone would, in their right mind, vote for either candidate at this point. Mango is what he is and that's a piss poor excuse for Presidential material and Jokin' Joe is one artery away from a lethal stroke.

Neither is fit for nor capable of the Office.

But one of them is going to get it and for 4 goddamned years. It's really a no-win for the country.

Nothing to be done about it except survive the coming shit storm.