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Re: Headlines that signal that the story will be misleading and/or stupid

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 7:27 pm
by stanky
I read a brief news clip regarding the Taylor Swift concert being cancelled due to terrorist threat. The CIA was mentioned as intercepting an ISIS plan to bomb the concert and kill 10,000 people.

My first reaction:
Pretty scary stuff.

My second thought, shamefully, was "How hard would it be to fake this whole thing?"
and the evil inner stanky's answer: "Not hard at all."
For what possible purpose? To sell fear and justification of some arcane laws rergarding homeland security and the threat from radical Muslim's, and the need for constant military expansion and invention.

Then I pondered the news as true, and it made sense, in a cynical way. Yes, a Taylor Swift concert would be a great place to bomb. You'd kill lots of rich young people that flew there from America; paid a shit ton to get in, then had to fly home. That's who you'd want to kill, i think, from their view point. Rich kids going to see a white billionaire sing pop songs.

True or fake, a horrible story on several levels. I can see what a broad stroke of fear it delivers. Certainly, T.S. herself must be a bit nervous about touring now.
(I won't be going to her next one.)

Re: Headlines that signal that the story will be misleading and/or stupid

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 5:55 pm
by Meadmaker
CNN's Kamala Harris, Tim Walz interview can be summed up in just two words


From Fox News.

It's another variation on the "the guys we don't like have done something awful", which is the most common form of misleading or stupid headlines. This one adds a sort of "Don't even bother to find out what they said. Just take our word for it."

The two words were:

dishonest

and.....wait for it...

trainwreckalicious

Obviously, I have already read the article, and it is ever bit as stupid as the headline would lead you to believe.


Is our idiotic media causing the elctorate to be stupid, or is our stupid electorate causing the media to be idiotic by pandering to them. I think somewhat of both, A feedback loop that reinforces the stupid on both sides. A media company decides their ratings will be better if they pander to a particular party, instead of just reporting the truth. People hear it, thinking it must be true, because it's on the TV and it confirms their prior bias. This causes the media company to become even more partisan, to the point where they eventually don't dare report the truth, lest they lose their audience, which by this time is entirely partisan.

Re: Headlines that signal that the story will be misleading and/or stupid

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:29 am
by stanky
Isn't it the sponsors whom influence the dumbnitude of the media?
If the product they're selling is crappy or, overpriced; unnecessary and toxic, they need you to be dumb enough to buy it anyway. The show must not critique it's sponsorship negatively. There's the stranglehold. Big pharma disproportionately sponsors news programs. The want you unwell and addicted, harsh as that sounds. Ideally, you remain ill longer than once possible. And buy the product. Works both sides hard, pushing crap. First the food and then the meds for all the crap you'll suffer...heart burn, headaches, itching, dry hair, dry skin, constipation,whiter teeth; soda pop, fake sugar pop, cleaning products, etc, etc.

As the companies collude or copy or conglomerate into near monopolies, they gain big lobbying power with congress, and thanks to fear after 9-11, they can give as much money as they want to political campaigns. It's conducive to across the board lifestyle connections. Big Ag dominates via monopoly and has settled on a type of culture that encourages obesity through advertising. It sells bad food, but big pharma has you covered for occasional distress.
It's increasingly a package deal and at odds with almost everything good and decent.

Fuckin' stupid trap. At least in America, it's damn difficult to buck that tide...even a little. The smart phone is almost required because of it ubiquitousness. It goes with a consumerist culture, though it has the promise of energy savings. Soon, no outliers allowed. No free camping, nor horses on the hi-way. Insurance is forced upon us.
It'd be swell if it wasn't trashing the planet, while creating dumber humans.

how i see it anyhow, for now.
Hate to sound ungrateful. I'm quite blessed. But i'm pissed at watching greed dominate and evil take over in the name of Jesus and wholesome, family values.

Re: Headlines that signal that the story will be misleading and/or stupid

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:48 am
by Meadmaker
"Every household is paying $47,000 more thanks to Biden-Harris red tape"

From the Washington Times.

The well known saying says there are three types of lies. Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Since not every household has 47,000 dollars to pay, this story can't be true, but let's see how they use the statistics to lie:

"University of Chicago economist Casey Mulligan calculated the financial toll imposed by the current administration’s regulatory intemperance, concluding that Democratic rule has stuck American families with a $47,000 tab. "

Basically....somehow all those darned regulations passed by Biden and Harris cost 47,000 per family.

No wonder I can't eat anymore. After I pay my 47,000, there's hardly anything left.

Oh.....wait.......I really don't seem to be paying that much. Yes, there's inflation. And yes, regulation can increase inflation. But 47,000 per family due to Biden's added red tape? Really? I'll bet Mulligan has a PhD, so it must be true.

Re: Headlines that signal that the story will be misleading and/or stupid

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:54 am
by Meadmaker
Some specific stupid:

"The Green New Deal takes most of the blame, .... For example, ordering everyone to switch to partially or fully electric cars and trucks by 2031 is going to raise the sticker price on each new vehicle by more than $6,000."


There is nothing that demands everyone switch to a fully or partially electric car by 2031.

There is a regulation which would, effectively, order car companies to manufacture more hybrids or evs in order to avoid penalties, and the way that is being done is, in my opinion, stupid. But the quoted paragraph above is just plain false.

Re: Headlines that signal that the story will be misleading and/or stupid

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:40 pm
by Admin
Meadmaker wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:48 am From the Washington Times.
There's your problem.

Re: Headlines that signal that the story will be misleading and/or stupid

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:03 am
by Meadmaker
Admin wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:40 pm
Meadmaker wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:48 am From the Washington Times.
There's your problem.
Well, yes.

Fox News, Washington Times, and a few others are frequent sources of headlines that signal stupid is on the way.

ETA: But, even if you aren't familiar with the source, there are some headlines that you can spot as predicting stupid coming. The source just confirms that there's no doubt it's about to get dumb.

Re: Headlines that signal that the story will be misleading and/or stupid

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 2:49 am
by stanky
The lack of stories tells a story, too. Sometimes, a big story emerges but it's gone the next day.
I just watched 'Bobby' do short interview, hoping for some crazy. Nah. Just exposing the subsidized food industry and children's health. I've never heard any politician speak to this corruption and the harm it does. Seems sane to me.
Trump seems insane. Harris is a tough sell. They can only reinvent so much of her.

Re: Headlines that signal that the story will be misleading and/or stupid

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 3:34 am
by arthwollipot
You realise that when he talks about "saving children" he's talking about pizzagate and Qanon, right?

Re: Headlines that signal that the story will be misleading and/or stupid

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 5:39 am
by sparks
And if they look like Ivanka, he'll be taking them home in the trunk of his car. :o