Re: The Religion Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2022 11:35 pm
Of course I'm reading the headline!! You may need a moment to prepare yourself TA, but the overwhelming majority of the public at large ONLY read the headlines. They know fuck all about the science, that is the point that you and a few (perhaps choose) to overlook?Admin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 8:50 amYou're reading the headlines instead of the science. Journalists are a pain in the arse.Di Wundrin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:46 am Same behaviour, same sacrificial reaction to 'buy off' what they can't control. Different scapegoat. That's what makes it 'the new religion'. That's all.
Good spot on two religion threads, I have no idea how I managed that, so I'll dump one at some stage.
This isn't an argument about climate or religion, it's just about how people are being manipulated by the agreed upon pain in the arse media to conform to a view of what climate change is that is somewhat at odds with 'science' it purports to be 'quoting'. They dramatise it!
Exactly as the 'philosophy' of the messiah types was written by the people who were selling it! Moses and Jesus didn't write the Bible. just sayin'.
It too was written in a series of 'headlines'.
Fred the Janitor doesn't give a flying who invented 'climate modelling' or bothers to figure out how the hell they weigh an atmospheric gas so they can sell it by the pound, he just "knows" that scientists (through the media shamans) are telling him his basement is going to flood more often if he doesn't ante up more dollars for his power bills and petrol.
The Headlines are the new Scriptures. The ads if you like. The reminders. The marketing tool.
You don't think that every calloused kneed believer in "acts of gods of any variety" was a student of theology, with full understanding of the heavenly marketing heirarchy. So why do you seem to think that every scared senseless climaphobe is a graduate in some branch of 'science'??
The public hum the incantations 'trust the science' like a Hail Mary. They know fuck all about it, they just "trust" it.
This is where the 'religion' comparison fits. In how it's being sold! Not on what the product actually is. Religion is a state of mind, you know that.
Why is it so hard to separate the product from the sales pitch?
Snake oil and 2nd hand cars probably had a few perfectly good things going for them, they just got a bad name because of the shysters who 'sell' them.
It's all in the marketing matey, media are marketing it for their clients. If you never wonder "what's in it for their clients" then it's you who are not thinking things through. Follow the money mate, never fails. A truly balanced view of the dangers in changing climate can't be garnered through what the shyster journos are preaching, I'm fully aboard with that. But because of those 'headlines' what we have is a disastrous series of really stupid decisions having been made about how to "combat" climate change which are going to kill far more people than complete ignorance of the subject ever could have.
Religious level zealotry kills people. Climate carpetbaggers have turned a scientifically, at least partially, explainable change in our surroundings requiring intelligently thought out measured steps in adaptation to allow society and civilization in general to transition to the new normal as efficiently as possible, into a race over the cliff of panicking populace frantic to ward off a 'doom' that is perhaps a century off being 'disastrous'.
Those 'clients' of the media shamans are making billions out of the panic factor. Just as the Vatican made billions out of spuiking doom to the heretic.
Yep, definitely being sold like a religion.
Media have become the new 'clergy' preaching bullshit to the masses for "their own good". And like the woo clergy, they've smothered the principles/science behind the 'rules' beneath their fire and brimstone theatricals.
People have to be scared enough to ante up their dollars as protection from the foretold doom. So the headlines scare them. And lo, they ante up.
Religion (some) isn't all bad if it's shaved back to basic tenets of being a set of good philosophically ethically and logically thought out rules to live by.
It can serve a good purpose. It's just been bastardized by vested interests.
Most people need to be supervised. It's a form of masochism I think but they find it extremely uncomfortable to be told that self determination and responsibility should be in play. They'll look for 'whoever is in charge' to absolve them of that mentally onerous duty. They don't want to shoulder blame for poor decisions, they want to force/elect others to make those decisions so they can blame them for their world going titsup.
Just like the priests and shamans gave them the stories, frilled 'em up with woo which was the science of the caves, and with dire warnings that if he supernatural unseen gods of thunder and shitty luck aren't placate in material local currency then the world will end at 5pm tomorrow so are today's shamans promising similar dire consequences for non compliance with the emissions contribution schemes.
Same old, same old.
(I see Sparks is aboard, this is about where he chimes in I'd say.
