trump off the CO ballot

[President Bush]

Guess I didn't say it well. You seem to be placing the world of legitimate policy options way in extreme Trump territory.

You know, as if the idea of deporting twelve million people from the country or looking at teenagers and wondering what genitals they have were examples of independent thinking.

Ok. I'm still not absolutely certain, but I think I get it. I'll try.

I think you are saying that deporting twelve million people is an extreme Trump position, but I am saying it's a mainstream, independent position. I am saying, according to you, that such a policy would appeal to independents. Have I got your position right?

It's a little bit hard to parse, because I'm saying that I think that you think that I think the majority of Americans think that it would be a good idea to deport illegal aliens. That sentence, by the way, is grammatically correct and says what I wanted it to say, but it's really hard to understand, so I'll try to say the idea in a more comprehensible manner.

Most Americans think illegal aliens have no right to be in this country. Most people think that it is ridiculous that so many people have been allowed into our country illegally. We want it stopped. Some of us recognize that there are so many people who are here illegally that mass deportation, while morally justified, isn't practical, and so we have to come up with plan B that is going to involve some form of amnesty. Others of us haven't really thought about it that much. I am saying that tightening border security and deporting illegal aliens as much as it is practical to do so is not an extreme Trump position. It's mainstream thought. If you don't realize that is how most people think, you're living in a media bubble.

Moving on to "looking at teenagers and wondering what sort of genitals they have."

I'm always amused at the ways people try to frame the issue, but, at least in a literal sense, yes, people do that. When someone crosses the finish line three seconds ahead of the rest of the pack in a 200 meter race, or spikes a volleyball at 50 miles per hour, people wonder if that person is really a girl. "Is she really a girl?" is a polite way of saying, "Does she have a penis?" So, yes. We do that. Mainstream people do that. It's not an extreme Trump position to say that biological males should not be allowed in girls' sports.

So, yes, I am saying that independent thinking people are opposed to males in girls' sports, and if you want to say that means we are thinking about what genitals teenagers have, you are correct. I will let you expound, if you so choose, on why you prefer to talk about what genitals they have instead of saying what sex they are, but the meanings are identical, and I'm not a prude, so either one is ok by me. As one fourteen year old girl appearing at a school board meeting in Virginia put it, "Everyone knows what a girl is. Even you." When she said that, she wasn't expressing an extreme Trump opinion.

If you don't believe that's a mainstream position that makes a difference to independent voters, you are living in a media bubble.

That post kind of reminds me of something a dispatcher over at the cab company told me last year.

But there was a simple explanation for it. Turns out a bunch of the promoted posts in his news feed were ads for unscented cat litter instead of gay porn like back when he drove nights.

[Meadmaker]

That post kind of reminds me of something a dispatcher over at the cab company told me last year. But there was a simple explanation for it. Turns out a bunch of the promoted posts in his news feed were ads for unscented cat litter instead of gay porn like back when he drove nights.

I see you are trying to grab that intellectual high ground.

[stanky]

If the Prez seems pissy, it's likely urological in nature.

isn't analyses of our political situation something we read about in a biased media article? In as much that the bias is unavoidable. The truth can be scrambled and propagandified while remaining truthful.
First hand knowledge and front line correspondence are rare. It must suck to have to leave S.A. and come back to this political shit show. Thanks for the reporting from Bolivia and their struggles and strengths.

I saw Jim Gaffigan's speech at the Al Smith show. He didn't pull punches or suck-up much. Trump was there; lots of billionaires. Weird scene, old white guys, mostly. Stodgy setting for comedy. Could have used a food fight.

[stanky]

xxxxxx

[stanky]

I see that Kamala has finally used the f-word* when describing Trump. I wonder if it will work. My gut tells me that it's a bad move, which will turn off independents. I'm not sure, though. Four years ago, I would have called it totally over the top, but I think we have seen more and more of that tendency from him.


*Fascist

funny, as i was reading that, i thought it would be "fat".
I wonder how that f-word would work?

[stanky]

reminds me of me, that beefheart tune. 3 comments. i could play it worse than that.

[grayman]

A place for Trump.

https://youtu.be/wiyGScJ7iWQ?si=y6WIMDKB-CtoYMfB

[President Bush]

If the Prez seems pissy, it's likely urological in nature.

isn't analyses of our political situation something we read about in a biased media article? In as much that the bias is unavoidable. The truth can be scrambled and propagandified while remaining truthful.
First hand knowledge and front line correspondence are rare. It must suck to have to leave S.A. and come back to this political shit show. Thanks for the reporting from Bolivia and their struggles and strengths.

I saw Jim Gaffigan's speech at the Al Smith show. He didn't pull punches or suck-up much. Trump was there; lots of billionaires. Weird scene, old white guys, mostly. Stodgy setting for comedy. Could have used a food fight.

thanks stanks, you got it, attempts to normalize the sucking void piss me off.

Comprehensive immigration reform isn't attempting to deport over ten million people from the country. The former is a good idea, something the sucking void help shoot down earlier this year. The latter woud be a fucking shit show.

Conflating the two is idiocy.

[Admin]

If the Prez seems pissy, it's likely urological in nature.

You know, there's a bloke at ISF who complains all the time about the far left and the far right sharing many tendencies. Seth McFarlane did it too when he had Michael Moore inside a Rush Limbaugh inside a Mike Moore. I always thought it was a bit harsh, but to some degree there's truth in it.

What you've done there is identical to Trump's "blood coming out of her whatever".

Nice.

It is ironic that that the left must move forward (sideways? backwards?) in small increments, while the right can take gigantic leaps from Eisenhower to Trump, via Reagan.

...old white guys, mostly. Stodgy setting for comedy. ...

There's your problem, and it's all my fault.

I must look up the piece I wrote 20 years ago that old blokes actually the world and why it's a good thing. Fuck, was I wrong. Old blokes, particularly old white blokes are the worst, most sickening species ever to exist on this planet. Half of them are Vogons and the other half Krikketers.

[stanky]

As an old white bloke myself, i concur.
Though i'm not a rich one, hence useless more than harmful.
Perhaps you recall my detailed analyses of biological math and reproduction, with an eye towards a sustainable population? (On a now defunct site)
Oldness becomes the bent of progress...we look to it as a sign of success...and not the de-evolution that's making the human world grumpy and sore.
We need youth and that energy, and the insistence on oldness is destroying the future before it happens.

Unless, of course, we branch out and conquer the galaxy...which i see as not only delusional, from a sciency position, but immoral, from an ethical p.o.v.
For a sustainable maximum population, we'll need a departure for every new arrival.

Me thinks we're well over a sustainable number. Young thugs should do their drive-by shootings at nursing homes.