stanky wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 9:42 pm
according to media, he's fading fast.
Sadly, I think that's too early to tell. Polling is so unreliable, and yes, the media is engaging in some wishful thinking, too.
back to Russia:
U.S. needs a boogey-man; justification for our absurdly bloated military and its out-posts around the world.
We chose the Russians. It makes little sense. What have they done to us?
Lately? Not much, I suppose. But what have they done to Ukraine? Death, destruction, occupation. That sort of thing.
Now, I know that you think it's none of our business and who cares because they aren't us, and you have a point. We can't go around righting every wrong, and when we try, we often end up committing a bunch of wrongs along the way.
Nevertheless, Vladmir Putin is a murderous bastard who deserves to be hung from a lamppost, and his regime is both corrupt and evil just like the one he grew up in when he was a subject of the USSR. I don't know whether we are doing the right thing in Ukraine, but I know we are supporting the right side.
Maybe all we are doing is delaying the inevitable reconquest of Ukraine and the reformulation of the Russian Empire in its latest incarnation. I don't know. I don't have intelligence data. I don't have spy photos. I don't have enough information to say whether we are just prolonging the agony and the world would be better off if we just let Russia enslave one more former Soviet republic because at least fewer people would die in the process. I just know who are the good guys in this war.
Meanwhile, it's the u.s. that invades and drops bombs relentlessly, in aggression; for empire.
Wait. Surely you are not claimng that Russia is not doing exactly that right now. Whether in Mariople or Kharkiv or any of dozens of cities and hudreds of towns where hundreds of thousands have been killed and millions have been made homeless, all of that death and destruction is happening because of the Russian regime. Surely you understand that, don't you?
It's a fool's errand to try and make comparisons in a debate like this, so there's no way I'm going to get into who is the bigger problem, but don't let your hatred of your own country blind you to the reality of what Russia is doing under the Putin regime.
We're likely to manipulate Ukraine for resources, same as Putin.
I remember 20 years ago seeing a bit on the news when an American public relations guy was trying to convince some Iraqi men that they ought not oppose us. One of the Iraqis said "You just want our oil!" And the American said, "Yes. We want your oil. We want to buy it. We want to make you rich." What do we want from Ukraine? Natural gas, I suppose? Yeah, maybe. Maybe that's the motivation for why we support the Ukranian regime.
Nevertheless, Vladmir Putin is a murderous bastard who deserves to be hung from a lamppost, because in addition to heading a corrupt regime that oppresses his own people, he is responsible for the deaths of over a million people, his and theirs, in Ukraine.
