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The perpetual myth
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of perpetual motion is that in this universe (we find ourselves in) all the evidence we have suggests that motion is perpetual.
We live, evidently, in a perpetual motion machine.

We can only speculate about non-motion.
Heat, of course, is motion.
Yet, the "laws" suggest that the heat is dissipating; that it will run out and stop.

But there's no evidence. Only the opposite.
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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it the temp that is being reduced due to the expansion of our cheery little universe? While the total amount of heat energy remains the same?

The classic energy laws inform that we cannot create or destroy energy, but only change its form.
You can lead 'em to knowledge, but you can't make 'em think.
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#3
i was hoping you'd show up, sparky.

i thought it best that we fight here, so we won't have to on the mythical boat.

If everything came from nothing, it can probably go back to nothing.

If energy can't be destroyed, how was it created?
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deeper questions to come.
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(03-18-2020, 07:43 PM)stanky Wrote:  If energy can't be destroyed, how was it created?

Gawd.
"when you think you've lost everything... you find out you can always lose a little bit more." - President Bush
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(03-18-2020, 07:43 PM)stanky Wrote:  If everything came from nothing, it can probably go back to nothing.

That was Hawking's position - an ultimate "big crunch" or Gnab Gib to end it all.

Probably a year or two left in the universe at this stage.
Love is... that one person whose freshly-warm toilet seat you don't find disgusting.
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#7
stank says: "If energy can't be destroyed, how was it created? "

Well, that's rather the point, isn't it? It can neither be created nor destroyed, according to the classic laws. It can only be changed from one form to another (provided you know how).

Suggest you read Lawrence Krauss--A Universe From Nothing.

The problem with trying to find out what happened 'before' the Big Bang (or after the Big Crunch, if these rather naive models still work at all) is that there are very few clues that haven't been utterly wiped out of existence left upon which to speculate.

We just don't fucking well know. I doubt we ever will, especially at the rate we're dispatching "Hand Sanitizer Trees" and "Toilet Paper Shrubbery" in an obscene attempt to prolong our personal comfort in the face of the "Little Pandemic That Couldn't".

Good Christ but this is so goddamned stupid, how could we be anything else but ... wait for it ... DOOMED!!!!

Yours in High Sarcasm,
sparks

BTW--That reminds me: "The boss" (that fat fucking idiot sonofabitch) calls me into his office yesterday, and I figure Thank Christ, they're finally going to fire me!!! Praise the fucking baby Jeebus!!!!! But no. He just wants me to knock off the sarcasm when within earshot of other co-workers who might be triggered by gallows humor re: Covid-19 and all the usual Company Bullshit like just dropping titles on people without talking to them about it or offering them more money for the bullshit. And while he's trying to tie all these unrelated points together so that he can have a better day at my expense, I smile and nod and once again think to myself as I'm leaving The Den Of Dumbth, 'Jeesus, what an idiot. How the fuck did he get this gig?'

And Covid-19 hasn't really hit it's stride yet. These fuckers are going to be snapping like twigs when the real pressure starts. Smile If we start into the "Shelter In Place" bullshit from the governor, I'm getting my weapons out of storage and gettin' them cleaned up. 'Cause that's when it's gonna get weird.

Goddamn but our species is stupid. I blame Consumerism. It's turned us all into a big fucking smelly herd of fuckwads. Empty headed consuming fucking idiots.

OK, that's enough for now. I've got to concentrate on downing another Scotch. Then I have to go to work!
You can lead 'em to knowledge, but you can't make 'em think.
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#8
that was lovey, el sparko.

(have you considered firing your boss?)

btw, i'm a fan of Krauss.
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(03-19-2020, 07:19 AM)sparks Wrote:  Goddamn but our species is stupid.  I blame Consumerism.  It's turned us all into a big fucking smelly herd of fuckwads.  Empty headed consuming fucking idiots.

Quoted for posterity. And being 100% correct.

In a sane world, how would a politician go from: "This is a hoax" to "I always knew it was a pandemic and said so" in the space of a fortnight and get people to believe him?

Orwell's doublethink is now the way of life.
Love is... that one person whose freshly-warm toilet seat you don't find disgusting.
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#10
at times like this, i'm reminded of some Buddhists.

They had this idea that it was important to be grateful for what your ancestors did for you.
Even if everything is all fucked up.

We're all recipients of the gifts that lead to global warming.
It's not like we didn't do this thing.
We pretty much did.

sure, it's time to change.

Hell, I'm an organitron bambi-ass hippy, and I've spewed enough carbon into the sky to make a dump-truck load of Hope diamonds.

self-righteousness, hopefully, is flying from the coop.

The virus thing is very interesting. It might bring on the democratic socialist future.
Or right wing chaos. Or a mix.

I've been thinking about a home-made ventilator. Like a reverse bong with a pump on it.
How hard could it be?
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