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psychedelic drugs edging towards legitimacy?
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(11-30-2020, 05:01 AM)Di Wundrin Wrote:  Is it a mental condition to be depressed about bad shit?  Wouldn't you be nuts if you weren't a tad depressed these days?

And who needs psychadelics when reality is all blown to Looking Glass land and nothing is reliable or believable now and psychadelia is the new normal?

Clinical depression is the issue. If someone is down, they'll usually get back up by themselves, but some people have amazingly awful struggles with depression, and suicide stats show what it ends up in.

The issue of treating mental illnesses with psychedelics isn't even about them getting high - the best results seem to come from micro-dosing where they take about 10% of the amount required for a trip. It's now way past obvious that psilocybin and LSD micro-dosing is infinitely better at treating depression, bipolar and schizophrenia than any drug currently being sold.

And that's half the problem.
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There's been a bit of a murmur in OZ about the sudden rise in 'mental illness' diagnoses.

A well credentialled Psychiatrist (not psychologist) has written a book about the over medicalizing of depression in particular.  

He says there's far too many people being handed scrips for anti depression drugs who are not suffering medication level mental disorders at all, but only suffering emotional stress well within the accepted limits of normal emotional range.

Depression, especially in this 'Covid normal' world, has become somewhat trendy which is also compounding the problem. 

People who can't live with themselves, who need constant social connections,   use it as an excuse to get the attention they crave in many cases.  They'd rather be told they're nuts than be told they're incapable of thinking for, or beyond, themselves. 

The first place they head when they get out of lockdown is the nearest quack to get a pocketful of pills to use as show and tell props when reconnecting with their peer groups.  "OOOh yes! me too!  I'm soooo depressed I've got more pills than you do, daarrrling!"

He made a lot of sense, but his theory is aside from treatments, only concenrned with the misdiagnosis aspects.
The important point made is that these trendy depressives are taking space and resources needed for those with the real thing.

The average GP is not equipped to make a studied judgement so they err on the side of caution and refer everyone onto the specialists' lists and fill out scrips that people really shouldn't be taking.  
The Medicare and PBS costs are skyrocketing, and more and more dangerously real, mentally compromised, people are going over the edge before they get their turn with a specialist.

From the way he explained it, there is a massive percentage of increased mental illness which is emotional stupidity rather than genuine depression.   (Depression was the main aspect he was focused on, not much said about the other common syndromes.)
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(11-30-2020, 04:42 PM)Di Wundrin Wrote:  From the way he explained it, there is a massive percentage of increased mental illness which is emotional stupidity rather than genuine depression.   (Depression was the main aspect he was focused on, not much said about the other common syndromes.)

Yeah, I'd buy that, but given the uselessness of the psych industry, it probably doesn't matter too much.

Also, I'm not sure how you tell the difference.

My daughter-in-law is a paediatric nurse in the kids' ICU. There's a spate of 12-14 year olds trying to hang themselves at the moment. Several of them died. That should be the first target - kids that age have no conception of anything. I really do wonder whether they see it as some kind of re-boot.
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