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#81
You forgot about the lawyer in the absurd position of codifying his own legal vote as illegal. 
Ask not what is the problem but, rather, where is the lesion.
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#82
My goal is to get along with everyone.
Yes, it's hopeless.

Hypocrisy should no longer shock us.

I love the Prez; love the token conservative, ageing babe, Di.

Fuck, I love my dog.
To paraphrase Leonard Cohen,
"we are leaning out for love; we will lean that way forever."

Me and Lenny are mates.
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#83
Quote:Stanky babe wrote:

Me and Lenny are mates.


You see dead people??

(11-23-2020, 10:17 AM)President Bush Wrote:  You forgot about the lawyer in the absurd position of codifying his own legal vote as illegal. 

No I didn't forget that,  it was the point of mentioning 'own goals' kicked by legal pros trying to get too cute. Sorry if that was a bit too subtle. RolleyesCool
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#84
Now that I've been listening to "News Max" on line, my attitude has totally changed.

Trump is Christ returned. I love him so hard, it hurts both of us.
Did you even know that Trump invented the vaccines?
Or that Hugo Chavez stole the election?

I love Trump so hard, that I have multiple orgasms, just thinking about his hair?
Christ, I love him so bad.

Any jazz fans here?
Coltrane's "A love Supreme"?

That's as lose as I can cum to explaining my love of Trump.

Disappointed by Tucker Carlson lately?

News-Max has your back.

I would take a bullet for my leader.
I've quit my foolish prayers, that Mary would lose the lottery.
I only have prayers for the Donald now.

May the Donald bless Trump.
Thank Donald for "News-Max".

The truth is marching on.

(I am drowning in ejaculate.)
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#85
Quote:Now that I've been listening to "News Max" on line, my attitude has totally changed.

That's not s'posed to happen, and obviously didn't! 

People feed the media, especially subscribed media, and in turn they produce what their audience want to hear.   The claims that the Murdoch Press etc influence their audience have it arse about backwards.  
Rupe is in it for the money, not the politics.

The Left bitch about the bias of Rupe TV and the Conservatives bitch about the hijacking of public broadcasters by the Far Left.  Both are right and wrong about that, no denying bias in media, but the reasons are not being looked at closely enough.

The audience pays the bills, no audience, no paychecks.  Nobody produces shows no one wants to watch deliberately.  Not even the publicly funded ones!  They all serve an audience. They don't create an audience.

Those who watch Fox/SKY watch it because it confirms their already formed bias.  Same for the CNN fans.

 It's hard, but necessary to watch both to get a full 'story' these days. 
All of them discard or omit the details that will 'unsettle' their audience.
It's even harder to believe that the broadcaster can change minds 180 degrees.  Never saw that happen.
People may place way too much credence in what they're hearing, but their natural bias is reinforced, not changed.

Minds do change, over time, from within and with changing personal circumstances.  They don't change because they they're told to by some smug talking head on TV.

[ramble alert]
I was staunchly Labor once. I was most contented with Bob Hawke's Labor government. 
It was roughly where the Liberals are now not exactly but roughly. 

He kept a good balance of economy and wage rates.  He was once the head honcho of the Union movement but kept their power under control so it didn't over run the economic needs for investors and developers. He never let ideology overcome his common sense.  He understood where those good wages (best in the world or close) came from.

He didn't demonise the rich bastards, he made them mates and socialised with them and made sure they turned a profit without gutting the workers in the process.  Even the maverick ones had respect for Hawke, he wasn't a man to mess with so they mainly stayed on side with him and OZ was sweet.

He was my fave PM evva.  A true Centrist even though he was a Labor man to his toenails.
Labor had gradually shifted Right from the one of my early youth, it was old hard core unions rule back then, but that was fast becoming obsolete in a changing world.  Hawkey nailed the mood of the nation and steered it towards and into the changing world structure pretty damned deftly.

Next came Keating and he was a 'progressive' type. An 'elite'.  Artyfarty and philosopharty and started the slide to the 'limousine left' which appealed to the kind of hipsters who now pretend to give a shit about the environment that they'd never muddy their shoes in.  
He had an air of contempt for the working class which is the kiss of death for a Labor PM.  He was taking Labor into the territory that the Dems over there inhabit, and OZ was not impressed.  He was turfed out and Labor have only been elected for a couple terms over the last few decades.

Labor left me!   I shifted to the next closest to Centrist in the hope that Hawkey's system would return but it never did.  The times changed and it probably wouldn't work now either.  ce la vie.
[/ramble]

But the media had nothing whatever to do with my change of mind.  I made the decision of which 'message' I wanted to hear, not the effing media pundits.

That claim of 'brainwashing' is just an excuse made by Parties whose policies are poison to a sector of the population.
It's bullshit that some TV talking heads have turned them away from voting for policies which harm their lifestyle.
The policies drive the decision, and the decision drives them to watch channels which confirm their fears.  

I could say do the math, but the only math involved is the ratings.
People tend to confuse the cause and effect. 

Media and audience are a symbiotic entity, neither survives without the other.  The messaging of the entity depends on the tastes of the audience that feeds it's coffers. 
When the media starts to feed the audience it becomes propaganda and  that only works on willing minds.  Everyone else just laughs at it.
But when it turns from propaganda to defamatory attack then it becomes something else again.  It doesn't win any more audience over, simply drives a wedge through society.  I can only presume that someone other than the audience is 'funding their fury'.   Never just stop at presuming it's ideological, keep following the money.

...running out of analogies, need to go and refuel. Blush
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#86
(11-23-2020, 03:16 PM)Di Wundrin Wrote:  
(11-23-2020, 10:17 AM)President Bush Wrote:  You forgot about the lawyer in the absurd position of codifying his own legal vote as illegal. 

No I didn't forget that,  it was the point of mentioning 'own goals' kicked by legal pros trying to get too cute. Sorry if that was a bit too subtle. RolleyesCool

Already busted you for that. It was nothing like an "own goal".

The rules concerning this lawyer's personal vote changed between the time he voted and the time he became attorney for "El Hueco" and the recount in Wisconsin.

Somebody makes an "own goal" last decade, little while ago, tomorrow, whenever... always the same. The definition remains unchanged.

Your logic is faulty.
Ask not what is the problem but, rather, where is the lesion.
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#87
Lost in translation perhaps, it's what we'd call it down here. Or wedged himself.
But whatever, I'm over the pedanticisms for today.
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#88
Evasion noted.
You can lead 'em to knowledge, but you can't make 'em think.
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#89
Well, hell's bells Sparky,  I'm owed a few!! [Image: yellow-laughing-smiley-emoticon.gif]

Truth is the interest level has dropped off now PT's on the skids.   It's been a hell of a circus, but it'll be just a sideshow without him.  siiiigh.

Pres might think I should waste time on the history of some lawyer as though I give a shit but the part of the game that held my interest is over.  You fellas can pick over the carcasses like roadside crows,  I'm off to find another circus.Big Grin
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#90
(11-24-2020, 02:50 PM)Di Wundrin Wrote:  I'm off to find another circus.

You won't need to look far - Morrison's already dipped his toes into the Brereton Report.
Love is... that one person whose freshly-warm toilet seat you don't find disgusting.
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