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Ok now, the media is churning this shit up like a cheap outboard on a Mississippi bayou.

Pelosi shows up in a pink suit with a black mask and the quote from the fucking Chinese who have ostensibly landed on some island close by is that they'll "fight to the death".

As though it were an objective thing.

Fucking cunts.

And Biden is still wheezing his way through round 15 of Covid.

What the fuck is the answer to this madness?

I suggest we send a very clear message to China:  "Knock this shit off or the missiles fly bitches."

Not the best of solutions, but certainly effective.




They'll either back the fuck down or they'll escalate.  And then we'll escalate.  And the stupid goddamned human bullshit ends once and for all.

Couldn't care less either way actually.  Just tired of the nonstop bullshit.
Iit's mainland China's backyard, not ours. Yet they have a well-oiled democracy (run by Chinese) just offshore which seems to unnerve their brain trust. To do much of anything about it would require a move bigger than D Day. Seems pretty unlikely.
(08-02-2022, 10:13 PM)sparks Wrote: [ -> ]I suggest we send a very clear message to China:  "Knock this shit off or the missiles fly bitches."

Not the best of solutions, but certainly effective.

Strangely enough, I agree with you.

Right now, China is totally outclassed on both conventional and nuclear weapons and would be forced to back down.

Give it 10 years and that might not be the case.

(08-03-2022, 06:07 AM)President Bush Wrote: [ -> ]Iit's mainland China's backyard, not ours. Yet they have a well-oiled democracy (run by Chinese) just offshore which seems to unnerve their brain trust. To do much of anything about it would require a move bigger than D Day. Seems pretty unlikely.

You're missing the obvious point that China doesn't care how many troops die in the effort. They'd lie through their teeth about it anyway.
(08-03-2022, 06:36 PM)The Atheist Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-02-2022, 10:13 PM)sparks Wrote: [ -> ]I suggest we send a very clear message to China:  "Knock this shit off or the missiles fly bitches."

Not the best of solutions, but certainly effective.

Strangely enough, I agree with you.

Right now, China is totally outclassed on both conventional and nuclear weapons and would be forced to back down.

Give it 10 years and that might not be the case.


(08-03-2022, 06:07 AM)President Bush Wrote: [ -> ]Iit's mainland China's backyard, not ours. Yet they have a well-oiled democracy (run by Chinese) just offshore which seems to unnerve their brain trust. To do much of anything about it would require a move bigger than D Day. Seems pretty unlikely.

You're missing the obvious point that China doesn't care how many troops die in the effort. They'd lie through their teeth about it anyway.

Get a grip. No fucking way mainland China will mount an invasion force bigger than D Day. That would be insane and much of Taiwan would be somewhat destroyed.

Mainland will find some line to cross which hasn't been crossed before, have a bomb land in the water nine miles into Taiwan's territorial waters rather than the ten miles it was last time.
The Onion published a story about the US Capitol building becoming decrepit and how a new one was going to be built in Nashville or somewhere. Some major mainland China newspaper picked up on it and published the story as if it were true.

I was just leaving Madison, WI, (home of the Onion) headed for Indonesia, transiting through Taiwan, and so grabbed a stack of them at the tavern for my carry on. So while it may not have been a major blow at mainland China I still got a kick out of leaving copies of that same edition ofThe Onion all around boarding gates and bathroom stalls and everywhere else at the Taipei airport. Think it was '02.
[quote='President Bush' pid='89084' dateline='1659580257']
Get a grip. No fucking way mainland China will mount an invasion force bigger than D Day.[/quote]

I'd question who needs to get a grip here. By what metric are you deciding the invasion force needs to be bigger than D-Day?

First off, if there's ever an invasion, it won't look anything like D-Day. There would be an air war first, followed by extensive bombing of the island, weakening the defences.

[quote='President Bush' pid='89084' dateline='1659580257']That would be insane and much of Taiwan would be somewhat destroyed.[quote]

Yes and yes.

I don't believe Xi is sane by our standards. The fact that most of Taiwan would be destroyed is probably the main driver of inaction. China has more invested in chips than we do, I'd say.

[quote='President Bush' pid='89084' dateline='1659580257']Mainland will find some line to cross which hasn't been crossed before, have a bomb land in the water nine miles into Taiwan's territorial waters rather than the ten miles it was last time.
[/quote]

I agree that's the likely outcome, but Xi might think that's a loss of face, because the world would shrug its collective shoulders.

I'm just not ruling out something far worse.
Maybe I'm biased, always really enjoyed being there. Plus, why would they, way too much too lose, makes no sense.

Taiwan is a symbolic threat but no existential threat.
(08-03-2022, 08:34 PM)President Bush Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe I'm biased, always really enjoyed being there.

There's nothing wrong with the people.

(08-03-2022, 08:34 PM)President Bush Wrote: [ -> ]Plus, why would they, way too much too lose, makes no sense.

Nor does their current plan of spending trillions of renminbi to fail to stop covid. Logic and the CCP are not on the same page.

[quote='President Bush' pid='89088' dateline='1659584059']Taiwan is a symbolic threat but no existential threat.

Exactly, so why the constant rhetoric, territorial incursions and threats?

The dumbest thing of all is, the average Taiwan citizen had felt fairly kindly towards the idea of reconciliation until Xi took over.